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Haleigh
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thought you were joining Kotor
... do us all a
favor.
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quantum
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| Posted: Sun Aug
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I am very sorry I
missed the chat last night; I went to sleep at around
1:30 am EST last night.
We have all been feeling
on edge lately. I cannot tell you how hard it is for me
to do this. I have felt beat up and abused and yes I've
have been genuine with everyone in everything I've ever
said I do care about all of you regardless of what may
have happened.
Let's begin with this whole issue
of others not pulling their weight. This issue was first
stated in this thread I believe and in my opinion the
real issue here comes down to seeing that everyone (the
council) really does care about this guild and everyone
in it more so than personal aspirations or glory.
The facts and our actions speak for themselves
as all of you can see from these forums we have been in
heated and passionate discussion since its inception.
I have wanted very much to hear from Haleigh and
Jakarta and I think part of the reason we feel that some
are not pulling their weight is because some people’s
actions are not in line with what they are /telling us.
Prime example of this is Haleighs ALL chan post.
While I agree it is something VERY useful to have. It
did feel a bit insensitive to me that while we are all
waiting to hear from her in some of these discussions
that she posts about how [all] was "Most successful
rebel coordination rebs ever had, especially for base
defense." but failed to credit previous efforts with
[base] after I had what I thought was a comprehensive
chat with Haleigh about keeping base secure the day I
started it. It really felt like a slap in the face.
Ever since you rejoined XEN Haleigh you have
done everything in your power to be seen, but have done
little to participate in things that have been very
important to the rest of us I am not going to even touch
this whole wedding issue but I am not an idiot, it is
quite obvious that this was all a setup. Oh and btw
-sipo is now my new best friend? I mean like things
could be a bit more subtle. There is a pattern here. I
have given EVERYONE the benefit of the doubt for far too
long.
I am certain that there is a lot more
going on behind the scenes than I know. I am sick of
being manipulated and used it has made me want to quit,
and not talk to anyone. This is all about power and
control I have no illusions about this.
But,
after everything we have been through Larsay and Jachari
have done everything within their power to attempt to
make this union stronger and to help us move forward.
That does say and mean a lot to me.
I must say
that resorting to posting hateful things about each
other is not the answer. I am sorry I was not available
to clear a lot of this up last night but as far as our
former guild was concerned we had many meetings and the
council did decide on a lot of issues (brought Ha'lies
in, the whole falco thing, Jak, the spy issues we had
several meetings over, etc..).
I never really
thought we had a motto but I wanted to create an
environment that was comfortable and beneficial to
everyone. Our rules were (after we formed the council)
you must be a Rebel, have at least one Elite Mastery and
working towards Master Pilot. We were not without
coordination or rules. We had weekly events as well.
Now after time of course a lot of things changed
(CU,NGE) and a lot of people left the game. We rejoined
XEN sometime before the NGE (don't remember the exact
date) but the idea was to keep the original ideals of
XEN alive, and those ideas were a strong guild that
could rely upon each other for everything they needed
and could make the Rebel Alliance stronger. We have
stayed true to those ideals.
However, our issues
go much deeper than this and always come back to trust.
Haleigh stated earlier in this thread "We operate on
trust, do you not trust me enough to talk to me about
any of this? “ There is a problem with this, Larsay
brought up to the guild the fact that some are not doing
as much as others and that for the council to work more
effectively we all must be on the same page and working
together towards what we "say" we want. When Haleigh
asks Larsay if she does not trust her enough to talk to
her it is breaking that trust and violates what has been
said by Haleigh in the past “we have learned with this
conflict a week ago, problems between guild members
should be handled directly between those members
involved." This is a guild issue, not an issue with one
person while it may seem directed that way this does
affect each and every one of us a great deal. Again,
there is a pattern here and it is far from the first
time it has happened.
Furthermore, I am not
backing down, I will not step down and no longer will I
allow myself to be manipulated. Yes, there have been
MANY times where I should have spoken up and that was
wrong of me, but I was attempting to protect others who
would undoubtedly be affected.
I will never
speak ill of any of you to others regardless of what
happens next, it's not right. You cannot expect us to
not talk with each other about this though; too many of
us are trying to see through the fog still.
I
can accept responsibility for my own actions and for my
words. But remember, what is said from here on out will
be with you forever and comments like that Haleigh I'm
sorry to say do not help this situation, you are not
being attacked here.
We cannot continue on with
things the way they are, there must be change. Too much
has happened behind the scenes while some of us have
been very forthcoming with our feelings and thoughts
only to feel that others are going behind our backs to
manipulate situations and our very future. There have
been many IMPORTANT issues that have been called out in
this thread and have been completely overlooked. That is
not fair to any of us or the guild.
It is also
not fair for any of us to be going through the hell that
we have been through, it certainly has seemed to affect
some more so than others and I know there are good
reasons for that. After this whole incident with Thras I
have felt really out of touch with everyone and since
you came back to the guild Haleigh little has changed,
and in many ways things have gotten worse. I think I can
speak for all of us when I say..We need to heal. We need
to know our friends are our friends. We need to know
that words have meaning.
I do not want to kick
Haleigh from the guild and the three of us (Jachari,
Larsay and I) have busted our asses to try to get back
some sense of normalcy or to at the very least make sure
you did feel the same way that we did. I fear now
we have reached a crossroads were a decision must be
made that will no doubt impact the entire server. I do
not make this decision lightly.
I think for now,
Haleigh it may be best that you leave us for a while
until we can get our heads straight. I know this is
difficult for all of us, but everyday since our issues
were “worked out” it has been something new or some more
drama about this person or that person. While I have
felt you have ignored the rest of us and what we care
about the most, which is each other.
I am an
open book here folks, and I say these things here to
avoid further miscommunication or manipulation. Some may
not agree with everything I have said here but I am
speaking from the heart and from what I have seen and
been told. If I must go it alone from here on out so be
it.
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Larsay
Daughter of the Emperor
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| Posted: Sun Aug
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To speak from the heart is very
noble and honorable. The heart does not lie. The heart
guides us through dark times. The heart also speaks a
language that only other hearts hear and allows us to be
touched and know when someone is telling you what they
feel is right.
I said something that were
hurtful last nite. I said them because I was angry. I
have given things up myself for this guild... my family.
They have done the same for me. No I am not trying to
steal anyones credit. Everytime I have been given credit
in the past I normally reject it...
I joined XEN
because of Haleigh. Though I found myself wanting to
stay and grow, and assist anyway possable because of the
people that I found here.
This is why I hurt.
This is why I cry. This is how it effected me. I hurt
like a child who watches their family fight amoung
themselves. Intially the try and help. They try and fix
things. Then the blame themselves.
It pains me
more then you would know to say this... it really does
and you can beleive me or call me a liar, it does not
matter to me as I know the truth and thats all that
matters. Quantum is right. I am sorry Haleigh. I am
sorry for the hurtful things I have said, but Quantum,
Jach, and Jak are my family too now. I am sorry maybe to
you I am like a stepchild/step sibling.
The
special thing about family... a real family... is they
can turn inward on themselves and need only each other.
That is why I love XEN. We can do that. Just not
everyone wants to do that right now...
You are
not going in it alone. Family does not let family do
that.
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Haleigh
Miss Buns
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| Posted: Sun Aug
13, 2006 4:37 pm
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First off, I'd like to thank you
Quantum for having the decency to tell me what you three
have been saying behind my back.
While you guys
were busy trolling and jockeying for position, my corpse
was lying all over the galaxy playing the game as the
sole representative of XEN.
Be seen? That is my
crime?
And the fact that the wedding was a
"setup"?
And Sipo is my new best friend?
Gee, I should be shot, wait I was all week, ask
any rebel or imperial for that matter, I died more than
anyone while defending that base for 4 straight days and
nights, unable to move.
Course you don't know
that, you weren't there.
As far as the all
channel, Iry was spamming the unsecured overadvertised
base channel and I did the best I could, as you had been
asking:
Not being attacked? Is the following
statement from Larsay yesterday, to say nothing of this
entire board, an attack?
larsay: No fuck you... Your a two
face liying bitch... You call people in XEN your
family... but you dont take in their concerns... you
dodge them... You rather go play around with your
fucking cyber buddies then help your family. I am sorry
these guys have become my family... Family first
That would only be
considered an attack if I had said it.
Another
thing I don't get: If you really didn't think you were
in the wrong, why would you bother to make an ]apology post asking for forgiveness?
After all, you were the victim(s), right?
Quantum, as a former friend of mine, could you
at least have the courtesy of kicking me formally from
the guild, I promised after you made that short-lived
apology post, that I would come back to XEN and that I
would not leave.
I would like to go out having
kept my word.
I wish you all the best in your
future Endeavors.
/salute
P.S. I am
online now if you would like to log in and remove me.
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Larsay
Daughter of the Emperor
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| Posted: Sun Aug
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Not being attacked?
Is the following statement from Larsay yesterday,
to say nothing of this entire board, an
attack?
larsay: No fuck you... Your
a two face liying bitch... You call people in XEN
your family... but you dont take in their
concerns... you dodge them... You rather go play
around with your fucking cyber buddies then help
your family. I am sorry these guys have become my
family... Family first
That would only be
considered an attack if I had said it.
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You
right I said that and that was directed at you out of
anger. I have never denied that. Fact maybe rather then
making snide remarks yourself you should read my
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I
said something that were hurtful last nite. I said
them because I was angry. I have given things up
myself for this guild... my family. They have done
the same for me. No I am not trying to steal
anyones credit. Everytime I have been given credit
in the past I normally reject it...
I
joined XEN because of Haleigh. Though I found
myself wanting to stay and grow, and assist anyway
possable because of the people that I found here.
This is why I hurt. This is why I cry.
This is how it effected me. I hurt like a child
who watches their family fight amoung themselves.
Intially the try and help. They try and fix
things. Then the blame themselves.
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I was
trying to say sorry there. I have reason for my
feelings. I thought prehapes we could rise above that
and see that. I guess I thought wrong.
I am
going to tell you this now... I am going to be very
clear with this statement, and I am going to tell you
this as a friend...
Stop throwing in everyones
face the bases. Quantum pulled at least one almost all
nighter at them I know. Jach tries to be at them durring
the nites when he can and lag permits. Jakarta has been
busy with work, and I have offered my hand everytime I
have been on. You Haleigh... YOU told me "No your school
is more importaint." You were right, and were telling me
this as a friend. Now I feel its a slap in the face
personally to me because I was not there and working on
school stuff.
I personally know why you set up
the new secure channel. One was needed. I also see how
people felt it was a slap in the face to their efforts
though. People tried to just let bygones be bygones, but
these things add up over time.
You talk about
people stabbing you in the back, talking behind your
back... I am sorry the gloves are off...
You
have sat and told me how Quantum is just exstremely
paranoid about everything. You tell me how he always
feels left out over things because of his paranoia. That
often times the way he feels is only because of that and
not for any soild reason...
You have told me
Jach does nothing but tries to get into the middle of
everything and create drama. You told me about how you
try not to tell him certain things because of this. Like
when you have had problems with in game relationships,
he would take the other persons side and tell everyone
about it.
Talk about backstabing. You sure as
hell have done your fair share, and talk about
paranoia... you screenie everything. Thats paranoia
right there too.
People who live in glass houses
should not throw stones.
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